adidas Basketball & Sneaker News Discuss The Crazy Light 2
SN: It seems like there’s a lot of information that comes out of the testing process with athletes and machines, but obviously nothing’s perfect on the first try. How were the results from the initial round of testing?
ED: With all the learning we did with the Crazy Light 1, the first round of samples of the Crazy Light 2 were awesome! A lot of the revising with the Crazy Light 2 was with the materials, testing five different lining combinations, and once that was done, we got a design review. All of that feedback, including marketing and athlete feedback, went to Robbie who did a re-design, and that shoe went through the same exact testing we did with the first sample.
SN: Besides the toe-cap issue you mentioned before, what was another revision that had to be made from the original?
ED: Outside of the toe-cap issue, there’s a hang-tag on the Crazy Light 1 that says “For Indoor Use Only”, which allowed us to reduce web thickness and make the shoe as light as possible for optimal performance on court, but then we realized the majority of basketball players play outdoors.
SN: A few of our readers have mentioned the outdoor playability of shoe, and a lot of countries outside the U.S. play ball on outdoor courts.
ED: Yes, definitely. So one of the things was to change up the rubber – we actually have a thicker outsole around the perimeter which is a high-wear zone, and we also reduced the weight in the middle, and that resulted in a bit more abrasion-resistance and overall a more durable shoe that will allow you to play indoor and outdoor. Also, one of the big inspirations of Robbie was this idea of aerodynamic design and one of the results was reducing the seams. If you look at the forefoot, there really are no seams, so it’s almost piece up until the medial panel, so you have a smooth, more finessed finish. That was an unexpected revision that really enhanced the product.
SN: So where is the limit of “lightweight”, if there is any? Isn’t there the possibility of hitting a wall?
ED: Our team has a really solid understanding of basketball bio-mechanics and again, just going back to those 15 tests we put any shoe through – they’re pretty rigorous because that’s what comes from adidas, with our roots being in performance footwear. As long as we’re pushing the boundaries of “lightweight” and never forgetting and never compromising what it means to be a basketball shoe and what it requires, we can still go light. There’s a lot shoes that go light in a very arbitrary way, but we try to do it in a very intelligent way, and we’re still finding ways to make shoes lighter, which comes from not only material innovation, but construction innovation. We’re not there yet!
Elysia Davis is part of Sports Research, Basketball for adidas. Her background and experience in Biomechanics has been integral to the development of the adidas adiZero Crazy Light series.
Stick with the 70 era adidas SUPERSTARS or adidas PROMODELS. (if you can still find them) THEY ARE THE BEST BASKETBALL SHOES EVER WORN by 90% of the pros & amateurs worldwide!!!! ---End of discussion---
I am a Nike/Jordan fan and have been balling in them exclusively for years. Having said that, I really don't think its fair to pin Rose or Shumpert's injury on adidas footwear. that's going a little too far (I didn't see the entire Baylor or Cincinatti team go down with ankle injuries during the NCAA tourney, and they were all wearing adidas crazy lights). There are plenty of players in Nikes getting foot injuries; it's basketball, its bound to happen. Torn ACLs are more rare in basketball, and so if you really want to point the finger at someone, it should be at David Stern, for this compressed post-lockout schedule. Players like D-Rose (small, explosive, drive inside a lot) are bound to get hurt with no training camp and no rest in between games.
I played in adidas all my life, This most recent injury to Rose is a freak accident; he planted his feet where his knees were at a very acute angle placing a extreme amount of stress at a very specific point causing the tear. I have had zero issues with my pair of 2.5s on court
They may be light but they are also TERRIBLY ugly. Why do Adidas find it so hard to make nice looking shoes? I mean some are ok, even hot. But most are just woeful. I think the problem is they restrict themselves too much by having to feature the 3 stripes. Honestly guys, it was a structural support feature, like 1920s equivalent of flywire, but you don't have to have three big stripes on every shoe now. Make them a small logo and just free yourselves from this sillyness.
One thing Rose mistake is signing with Adidas they should shoot the research team of this company how many more good players would go down, last time T'mac now D'rose . I have a crazylight but i never used it why, toe box too wide, mesh doesn't hug the whole feet, heel guard doesn't go along with cushioning. every change of direction, pace & sudden breaks make your whole legs shake. it's so light it lost every protection it should have special if your a explosive, athletic & a high jumper player. i hope rose can get back up & get out of Adidas.
Why doesn't someone do some objective research on how many injured athletes there are and which brand they are with. Jump-stops happen. Injuries happen. Nike is a great brand but quit stroking its D.
@Connoisseur are you talking about the crazy Light 2s? Rose wore his signature Adizero 2.5 with ankle wraps. I think that particular was just bad luck, I saw him took off at mid air and hyperextend and evetually tear his ACL
I like how adidas stole the idea of having a light shoe and nike's marketing strategy. Since when did adidas use their designers to explain their products.
piece of shit shoes....wait isnt derrick rose injured again... Foot?knee?ankle? Pretty sure its the shoes... How many nike atheletes have foot problems? Sucks duncan left the swoosh, but he has foot issues also..... Oh well, im go hoop in my 2k4s eat a dik yall
I can't blame Nike's Jason Petrie making realistic comments on these adidas sneakers that may have caused series of injuries to it's main endorser Derrick Rose. The design itself appears to be flawed and susceptible to ankle and knee twisting. The 'curved profile' on the heel area that supposedly molds the heel is vulnerable to injury when subjected to lateral and explosive movements. Match that with a profile 'grade break' with the outer sole makes it very unstable. Compare that with Nike basketball sneakers wherein its profile is tapering CONTINUOUSLY from the ankle/heel area all the way to the outer sole making it very stable and keeps your feet planted. Jason has the point.
Is there such a thing as too light? Why don't we ask Adidas top athlete, Derrick Rose? LOL And didn't we just have an article about this EXACT subject last week? Damn SN, I am so tired of you guys rehashing the SAME EXACT THING 3 or 4 times a week. Get some new material.
Well whatever it is. The.injury lf drose, dwight howard, billups, iman shumpert are all bad PR to the public bec its the public.they want to impress so they can.sell the shoe
Why, do you play like drose or some pro athlete for that matter?? Stop comparing yourself with how the pros play just coz you run across the court every now and then theirs tend to be more brutal and can wear down on the body more than anyone else could ever claim on here and with the proper suport could have help with just a little bit to make the injuries less severe
Ricky Rubio tore his ACL, Jeremy tore his meniscus, Steph Curry has a shredded ankle from 2 years in Nike, Brandon Roy ended his career early. You can get hurt in any shoes.
Nike has pretty much the same profile, over the last couple of years, Ricky Rubio, Jeremy Lin, Steph Curry, Blake Griffin, Greg Oden, Brandon Roy. You can get hurt, and even end your career early in any shoes.
Sounds like you read a couple articles and put some big words together trying to make a believable argument to your wisdom. Oh and add the name "connoisseur" as your name, everyone should believe you then.
adidas might be shit but he's just such a douche to say that kinda thing at a very sensitive time. True winners don't talk shit about others. From the way he looks and talks in interviews, he seems like a cocky mofo and thinks hes the shit or on tinkers level cuz the lebrons are selling. i mean come on any somewhat-artistic sneakerheads can design a shoe that sells with help from the "hype" and celebs. just look at yeezy and the yeezys...anyways he represented nike and lebron in a pretty bad way.
The same subject? This is an interview with the designers that was not shown before. If you're not interested in the shoes, you can easily pass it.
You already forgot Rubio, Jeremy Lin, Steph Curry, Blake Griffin, Greg Oden, Brandon Roy. Everybody can get serious injuries, doesn't matter what shoes they wear.
I play 4 or 5 times a week, I play a similar style to that of drose. I never compared to myself to pro athlete nor do I have the same physical abilities, but I can say that I play usually from 2-4 hrs at a time fairly often throughout the week encountering very littles issues with my shoes. I was saying that the amount of force placed on his knee at the angle he planted his foot was most likely too high for it to reasonably handle.