The unfortunate reality of fake sneakers is one that’s hung over the scene for almost as long as people have been hoarding shoes. To make matters worse, it seems that the replica releases are getting better and better as the years go on. Helping you out a little bit is this photo set out of China, which does the courtesy of putting a real deal pair of the upcoming Air Jordan 1 Retro High OG “Bred” next to a not-so-real one. Continue reading to check out the nuances on these real vs. fake Jordans and remember to take care whenever you’re grabbing sneakers that aren’t straight from an officially authorized Nike/Jordan Brand retailer.
@scottieBmore you trolling tuff huh its a sad day in the world when someone dies over a pair of sneaks in the WORLD not just in the sneaker community! back to this article I don't have to worry about buying fakes cause I don't do resellers 4 those who have copped fakes thinking u were getting authentics I can sympathize with u outside of sneakers if anyone orders something and its not what u expected or worse u have the right to be mad and feelike someone has gotten the best of u because they actually have be careful who u spend ur money with the black market bootlegs everything from baby food to airplane parts and several types of grades! Dude how old are u I'm 36 who got u feeling like this must be ur best friend Lint u know that cotton in the bottom of ur pocket he's really easy to find especially if u ain't got no dollars in them clown!
the more i read these threads written by adults who r really BIG ASS KIDS, who couldnt get, or most likely COULDNT HOLD THEM DOWN, I realize that their mad because dudes are paying 50 for what they r paying 500 or more, and are mad that they look like fools, cuz 90pct of the public is commending the 50 buck shoes on someones feet just the same, which shows u how dumb u are, cuz thats the real reason ur buying them.like a girl i knew who commented on how her ugly, fatso friend had all these $1500 bags and she $300 ones.and i said, she had NO choice and she makes them look weak as hell cuz she's ugly as shit!!like i said about justin beiber..thats the difference between us and y'all now…we made them hot and stars followed..now justin briber got the yeezy's and y'all follow beiber!!!big ass joke..right then and there, we would have put that shit back on the shelf and the shoe would have been deaded….yall a joke now.
oh, and i also just say people referring to this as protecting the sneaker community
THATS THE MOST HYPOCRITCAL THING IVE EVER HEARD!!!
where is this damn community when some less fortunate youngster in any hood, USA gets murked for his new jordans because someone even less fortunate has nothing and his distorted values system led him to believe he was justified in putting some overpriced and obviously over valued SHOES over his brothers life…WHERE IS THAT SNEAKER COMMUNITY THEN? or is that kid not part of your BS "COMMUNITY"..out of sight, out of mind? disgrace..if ur so much looking out for the WHOLE sneaker community….STOP PAYING THE 300, nobody buy anything, go on a nike price strike, MAKE THEM BRING THE PRICE DOWN, and also stop flash marketing each release(for the intent of that mass hysteria crap), so then some kids can mayb buy them SAFELY..but y'all never gonna really do that, because u might won't get them all,and then people ur community really doesn't serve would have them as much as u. w the funny shit being, they r the ones who started the damn thing when it really counted..this sneaker community IS a BS GATED COMMUNITY that has the help walk out on their own to the closest bus stop…YOURE A JOKE
many of you really take this serious..talk about putting people on blast if u see them,and even people u don't know..first off, I'm sure that ,knowing a lot of sneaker heads are geeks(something u couldnt survive being in the 80s)half of y'all couldn't beat ur way out OF a wet paper bag.. so the dude u out-ing about his b grades would whip yo ass and then take ur prized "REAL JOINTS".. but for real, the same ur chastising people for this..whats the real reason u buying so many pairs of 300 dollar shoes? because u need to feel better about YOURSELF in a superficial way, and u see the dude that can do what u do for 50 bucks as a threat of how u try to separate urself from him by means of a price tag. sneaker fever was real in the 80s, cuz for one, u wasn't going to be able to get but one or two pairs over a long period of time 2)they weren't rush released all at once C) if u wasn't in the hood, u really wasn't getting em…now these jerk companies actually do that in reverse and concentrate on suburban stores and not the hood stores, its crazy…so it aint really nutting slick to having all the slick joints now, cuz theres no exclusivity when all of y'all are paying 300 for shoes they r sending to JUSTIN BEIBER for free… WE WOULDNT HAVE EVER DID THAT!!!hahaahaha y'all a bunch clowns for that..oh yea , and y'all only wearing retreads, nothing original, just like y'all music..u lettin the company tell u whats hot…what a joke!!!! we made the hits back in the day….yall aint leavin nuthin for the next generation!!!! BIG CLOWNS!!! yea, i buy sneakers still, but only the ones i had when they first came out…more than just the latest nike (but including those too)
Hey I nee some help, a friend of mine was selling me a jordan 1 detroit pistons model and she said it was a real one she bought in Hong Kong and it was a 100% not fake. The shoe met all the criteria except for the sole pattern and the size tag.
In some articles it says that the box should have a Nike logo featured, but my friend's box featured an Air Jordan logo. So is it a fake or not? Please reply asap..
My thoughts on the GM pairs is Nike hires a contractor to make X amount or Jordans since they cant make the for example lets say they make 200,000 of jordan 1s . They may hire a contractor to make 20,000 pair well after the contractor makes the pairs ofcourse with the template and materials NIke has authroized them NIKE will look inspect the shoes and there may be a diffrence that NIKE doesnt like so NIKE will tell them to trash them. Now who in the right mind is going to trash those. Somebody will take those out the back door and start selling them all over to resellers and BAM thats how you get early releases!! That also explains why there is varinces but they looks almost dead on, That is the most logical asumption I have came up with. Besides everybody complains about the quality of the JB I persoanlly think they are really nice!
Add, when nike made those "fakes". When nike wants to put out a jordan retro. they make a number of them. Might have different material from final product released to public. Different leather, stitching, color, whatever. What does nike do with all the production run up to the release pairs.... they sell them to nike accounts, they don't throw them away. another reason why GM might have different material, meaning different leather. does not make them fake. Different shade of red, does not mean there fake. does not mean theres some other chinese people making these so called goood fakes or replicas making them almost equal to the retail version. c'mon, its nikes products. Why all of a sudden, there making so good fakes now, starting from a couple years ago. I dont buy that. why did they wait til a couple years ago to finally get the fakes just right to match the retail version. that is not the case, retros have boomed in last couple years and nike know how much they re sell for. So why would they stop making them, but they cant keep releasing the same retro every year. so they do it behing doors, they have come up with any way to make money with these retros, currently there selling GM, pumping them out to accounts and being sold.
Example from my supplier, he gets them from nike, space jams, retail 175, hell get them for little cheaper, nike makes money and supplier sells for 300.
When it all boils down they are just shoes, even though it pains me to say this, it is true. We dont buy shoes for the material or how they look, we buy them because they mean something to us or signify a part of our life and who we are. So when you are buying fakes it's like ur not respecting urself or the sneaker commmunity
All in all it does not really matter, if u actually like the shoe u would want to go out and spend money (price doesnt matter) or wait til it release. If u buy fakes then ur not really messing with nike at all since they still earn profit from that. I rather wait until december, camp out and suffer the cold, for the og 1 breds, than buy variants or uncertified gms or whatever u call it. If all sneakerheads start buying these cheaper yet close enough fakes the sneakerhead market will crash due to the uncertainty of whether its real or a really good fake!
This proves nothing, just another Witch Hunt for "fakes" oh my god "fakes". Seriously people need to stop being raped by resellers on ebay and craig's list. Buy what you like and if they are made with the same materials why pay 3x or 4x more from a seller's retail pair. I mean promo pairs (FT samples) that have been out a long time back in the day are unauthorized by nike, snuck out and sold to the highest bidder, they should be considered fake also?!
I have GM jams and royals, there is no difference. Unfortunately, u and me don't really know for sure. Unless you been over there to china, doubt it. I am currently selling 11 gammas from a nike account. So your thoughts don't hold water. Grey market and fakes (made in different places with wack colors and materials) are different. It's grey market, not black or white. Nobody really knows the grey area.
and, sorry, not done. Where do you think Nike does with all the pairs they don't release. Cause you know Nike makes changes to a shoe all the time. Either its a different material or whatever. Nike sells the ones that are not the public release ones to these websites and people with nike accounts. People that have an agreement to buy all there pre release sneakers. Nike would be a fool to just throw them away in the dumpster, there still making money. Also, Nike or the factories never stop making these jordans, because they know how much they go for, resell. thats y you always see space jams on ebay with icey soles. But some anal sneaker heads if there not the china made sneakers that are sold directly by nike or footlocker then there fake, c'mon people open up your minds, i know a lot of sneaker heads are not the most intelligent, as we know. Also, Nike releases sneakers in china that might be completely different from the USA version.
This is the truth, believe me, i know people with nike accounts.
and not every single jordan release pairs are going to look 100% exactly the same. I got 12s from footlocker and the shoes are not 100% perfect identical. People need to open their mind and stop freaking out. People see one flaw and scream fake!!! Overall there ALL made in China by people and machines. What else do you want? What makes a shoe "legit" or "fake". It doesn't match the public release one??? If thats the only reason, ill buy grey all day cheaper and wear, nobody knows anyway.
Example: Bred 11s and slightly different from the space jams, it doesn't mean there is something up, as in their fake. sneakers are like diamonds, every pair has its own characteristics, there is not another pair that 100% matches another.
ghost pairs, same place, same materials, just no quality control. So you never know what your goin to get, especially if you order from those early release websites. But, I still wouldn't call them fake, same shoe, same place. It would be only messed up if people were selling grey market as public released ones. Better to say there 100% authentic Nike made. I rather pay 300 for grey market pairs, that im goin to wear anyway, versus 500 for "legit" ones.
@SOLEFRESH What you’ve just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could, even remotely, be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
lol firstly I am from China, spoken to many sellers, and they even admitted to me there are 'Legit' pairs that were made in the same factories as the RD pairs, and then there are 'GM' pairs, aka high level fakes. I mean I duno what GM jams and royals you got your hands onto, but when I compared them I could definitely find something different,
As you could see in one set of the pictures, which there was a finger pressing onto the leather, the original owner of the photos/ author of the original post explained, that the photos was to indicate the difference between quality of the leather used in both Legit and Fakes, You should already be able to tell one is softer than the other. So, the material used in GM is definitely different.
P.S. had both Legit RD and GM Royals sitting side by side, color is definitely different. will see if i can find a pic.
'Legit' ones are made in one factory, that is the same factory all the Release day pairs are made in, with SAME material. There are only a very limited amount of 'Legit' pairs that leaked out before release day. And they are all gone now. This is the REAL Early Release, to our understanding.
'GM'/'Fake' ones are made in a different factory, obviously by different people, worse techniques, but similar material. But IT IS JUST NOT THE SAME SHOE. No VARIATION NO BULLSHIT.
As for the space jams, if you have actually had them in your hands, you would have release they were made of a different, cheaper material. They were re-produced by a different factory!!!
And this applies to Royal 1s too, If you put Legit Royal 1s and GM Royal 1s side by side, you will release GM pair is just not made of the same material, not even in a similar color.
@realtalkbro http://nikeinc.com/pages/manufacturing-timeline You gonna tell Nike corporation the same u told me too? Click on the link n read yourself. Nike doesn't even own there own factories they contract there work. You don't think those contractors aren't gonna take advantage of the thriving Shoe business? I still yet to have heard your take since u know the industry so well? Before u tough guys talk do your homework! Hypebeast
@realtalkbro your another Internet tough guy huh? If u read closely it says my thoughts it doesn't say fact. Since your on on here and seem to know it all and how it works let's here you explain how it is?? Lets here Mr realtalkbro... & "may God have mercy on your soul" real talk this is only shoes. Real talk if you were in my face right now I'd slap you so hard your mom would lose the taste in her mouth!
You get all your sneaker Info off an article bro ? You believe all that garbage? If you really think no funny business goes on behind the scenes in this multi billion sneaker industry then your wrong. So you read a book and now you know all the facts and you go on YouTube and police everybody and correct them? Wow smh Please go on YouTube and Explain GM sneakers then
@FutureTomorrow_@jheyking ive been following this thread since the beginning and although their might be some truth buried in here i dont believe that meat and sneakers share any connection. but then again it is useful information and i could be wrong.
@FutureTomorrow_@Alejandro8675 dude ur taking this 2 far. These people/brothers could have gone online and bought them or saveed up to get some at resell price. The people who end up shooting over a shoe release most of the times have something mentally wrong with them (true) , what sane person would shoot over a shoe? When you want something, u want it the right way because it feels good to actually work for it. When those hard long hours u worked to get ur grails pay off and they come in the mail u fell so good and i bet everyone of the people who shoot at a sneaker release do feel bad about it later because they didnt get the shoe the right way.
Plus, so they used different leather, means there fake. Fake is the wrong word, I would say post release pairs. Cause nike still make them today, same factory. Like I said there maybe slight differences but doesn't mean there fake. I have gotten sloppy pairs from footlocker. Should I call them fake, or just a small screw up? So when I go to sell them, I'll have people tell me, there's glue in it, there fake. They don't look like my other ones, there too much spacing and stitching is off, bla bla bla. Get real!'
Back to what I said, all pairs are not goin to be 100% the same. I have bought legit pairs and both shoes weren't not 100% completely the same. Tell me this, what makes a pair legit then. When u buy from nike? What about nfl jerseys, jerseys sold by nike are 300 and grey market, pretty much same thing for 40. But ur saying it's only legit and u must compare any pair to the public released pair sold by nike. So if u don't buy from nike , there fake.
And I know all about GM and Authentics. $54 That's the price of the obvious replicas were talking about GM pairs so you really have no idea what we're talking about! Authentic probably cost $15 to make. Not saying that's ok. Google Grey market and see for yourself how bad it is these days. It's called unauthorized goods. They are the same but not authorized. They are doing it with I phones and canon cameras. Can't believe I'm arguing with some punk hype beast on here!
The fact of the matter is nobody knows what really goes on over there not even I do! I've been in the sneaker game for 20 yrs I bet your barely that old? I know a new balance reps and live right next to the Memphis Nike distribution center and store. I also know every single foot locker,champs,finish line mngr in this area personally. So who's the people you talk to exactly? They probably don't speak English buddy they are all from asia. There's hundreds of people in the black market.
@FutureTomorrow_@Alejandro8675 I dont like pure re-sellers either but you have to admit that they are pretty genius to capitalize on such a profiting industry. I resell some shoes sometimes and im sure everybody has to get enough money for a shoe you actually like or make room in your close. (i cannot relate to an inner city kid and i understand where your coming from, appreciate the convo man)
I disagree, plus i dont care about a bump. I know where GM come from or atleast where i get mines. There still Nike made, same place, so the little stuff. like color or stitching is little off. don't care, i wear mine and i dont pay high prices for.
The problem lies when people sell GM as retail release. Selling GM jams for 600 is wrong. 300-400 is fine. I sell GM, my guy has tier 0 account with nike and he says nike still makes them and sells to him by the 1,000s. But i would say the quality control is not as good compared to nike putting out shoes to the public. but either way buying GM or retail, its hit and miss. nothing is goin to be perfect
@devildog8774 LOL So your theory is, whatever you get from GM, if it looks good, its real, if there is something different, even CONSISTENTLY, it only looks bad because there was no quality control? HAHA Okay.
Without proof, how convincing do you think this argument is?
Before you ask, here is my proof for my argument, you will find those two bumps on EVERY GM pair you get, from now on, even on your Royals.
But then, I do hope you can find a perfectly similar pair as the legit pair shown above from the GM, provided you can show they are definitely GM, and prove me wrong.
You dont understand do you? I am not asking them to be 100% the same!!
But these characteristics of fakes, as listed above, are very very consistent on every pair of GMs!
Look at the 5th pic!!! which compares the back of both shoes, you can see that on the left one, the alleged 'Fake', has two bumps in the middle of the shoe, IT WASNT THERE BY ACCIDENT!!! If you look carefully on ur GM Royals, it has it too!!! Trust ME!!! Every single pair of GM Jordan 1s, whether Royals or Breds you are going to see in the next year is going to have it!!!
@devildog8774 support? well where did the guy get his legit pair from? and where did he get his 'fake' pair from? your not gonna tell me they are from the same place and were only made incorrectly are you? Because if you look on ebay right now, you will find most of the 'early release' pairs on there have most of the characteristics of the 'GM' pair instead of the 'legit' pair.
Why do the pairs floating around on ebay now not look like the 'legit' pair above? Because there are not as many legit as GM!
@devildog8774 I think what you are reffering to is a "B Grade" shoe. Fakes are not the same material. I worked at the nike factory(not fatory store) in Memphis and we get "B- grades" all the time which are the same material but have defects. "GM" pairs are made by different ppl overseas with different techniques and cheaper materials.